Federal Judges Rule Trump’s Immigration Order Violates the Law

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A three-judge panel has ruled that President Trump executive order excluding illegal immigrants from being counted for purposes of redistricting violates the law.

According to NBC News:

The “President must act in accordance with, and within the boundaries of, the authority that Congress has granted,” and “we conclude the President did not do so here,” the three-judge panel in New York wrote. The judges signed an injunction blocking the order from being implemented.

New York Attorney General Letitia James, who led a coalition of 21 states and 15 cities and counties in challenging the president’s July order, hailed the 86-page ruling.

“President Trump’s repeated attempts to hinder, impair, and prejudice an accurate census and the subsequent apportionment have failed once again,” James said in a statement.

“We urge everyone to fill out the census, if they have not already, and we will continue to take every legal action available to ensure all communities are counted,” she added.

James argued that it violated the 14th Amendment of the Constitution and the federal judges agreed.



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A Seeker
12 days ago

We believe in Processed Legal Immigration! Every home has a front door, some homes even have walls with gates! As a NATION, we must also have Walls, Gates and Permissions for entering our be loved country! Her security is NO LESS than ANY PRIVATE HOMES and BUSINESSES!

Billy Wilson
Billy Wilson
12 days ago
Reply to  A Seeker

If she came legally not the back door.

Doris Lauter
Doris Lauter
11 days ago
Reply to  Billy Wilson

They are talking about illegal.

john
john
11 days ago
Reply to  Billy Wilson

Hint they are talking about illeagals NOT legal citizens. OMG the stupidity with your side. No borders no country….

American Patriot
American Patriot
11 days ago
Reply to  Billy Wilson

THAT’S GREAT, ONE OUT OF THE CROWDS CAME LEGALLY.
THIS IS WHAT IS ALL ABOUT … THE REST SHOULD FOLLOW HER THEN

Robert Downs
Robert Downs
11 days ago
Reply to  A Seeker

I am in total agreement, total agreement, that as we protect our homes our families our property so we like wise should protect Our Country from illegal entry. Look what happened when the illegal pilgrims came in , they took over.

Jim Mcgrath
Jim Mcgrath
11 days ago
Reply to  Robert Downs

You are not quite as clever as your Mommy told you you were.

Fed Up WIth Liberal Activist
Fed Up WIth Liberal Activist "Judges"
11 days ago
Reply to  Robert Downs

And you came and killed off the legal inhabitants. The animals that lived here before you invaded.
So you’re no better.

Samuel Bloyed
Samuel Bloyed
11 days ago
Reply to  Robert Downs

But at that time there were no boundaries. We now have statutes, i.e. seat belts, speed limits, we have property boundaries people trespass on. People who do not respect my property boundaries must suffer the consequences.

Steveur
11 days ago
Reply to  Robert Downs

What illegal pilgrims? You really should take some study courses in History. You have to be a product of today’s education system.

Christian Conservative

I’m sorry but illegals are not citizens of the United States and should not be counted. I think the judges didn’t refer to the constitution but their own political views.

Deanne
Deanne
12 days ago

EVERY SINGLE NATION ON EARTH have borders & non citizen due process laws just like America which means we can’t go there set up camp and vote in their elections. Only liberals think it’s racist for America to enforce same laws EVERY other nations have.
MILLIONS of Americans died fighting to make America the greatest, strongest & most charitable nation on earth & people of other countries must do the same for their own counries. America is not obligated to take everyone that wants to come here illegally to invade our country…Want to become an American citizen?.. LEGALLY APPLY FOR IT
The entire U.S. CONSTITUTION was written for AMERICANS ONLY… it’s NOT the world constitution, it’s the U.S. CONSTITUTION! Non-citizens DO NOT possess rights under this document BUT they are still subject to America’s LAWS when on American soil, end of story & End Birth right citizenship

Billy Wilson
Billy Wilson
12 days ago

Remove the liberal idiot judges from office they rewrite the law to suit their owners Democrat crap.

Wedg
Wedg
11 days ago
Reply to  Billy Wilson

What is it with these judges? What do they not understand about the meaning of the word “illegal”?

Irene E. Peters
Irene E. Peters
11 days ago
Reply to  Wedg

Even MORE than that!!!! A careful study of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution will show that the word “CITIZEN” is stated over and over!!! The original intent was to provide representation for a portion or freed slaves! But even so, and even with subsequent clauses being added, it STILL refers to male “CITIZENS” (it is stated so because it was before women were given the right to vote)…..but it STILL says “CITIZENS”! If illegals want to be counted and represented in Congress, they must FIRST EARN THEIR CITIZENSHIP!!! What is it that our “lawmakers” and JUDGES don’t seem to understand? Or CAN THEY NOT READ???

Ollie Octopus
Ollie Octopus
11 days ago

Like one judge said to his law clerks, “This is the outcome I want, now find a way for me to get it.”

Richard
11 days ago
Reply to  Wedg

OBOZO cronies.

Richard
11 days ago
Reply to  Billy Wilson

Liberalism is a mental disorder and there is no help or cure.

Jane Stacy
11 days ago
Reply to  Richard

sure there is a cure it,s the same we do to rabid animals

Cliff
Cliff
12 days ago

This is just another way for the DEMOCOMMUNISTS to gain more seats in their districts by packing in as many illegal aliens as they can. They should not be “counted” they should be rounded up and DEPORTED until they come here LEGALLY.

Allan
Allan
11 days ago
Reply to  Cliff

Look who was in the photo front and center all one needs to say harrisment WORTHLESS inch worm

Fed Up WIth Liberal Activist
Fed Up WIth Liberal Activist "Judges"
11 days ago
Reply to  Allan

Where’s COVID when you really need it for someone.

mondo cane
11 days ago
Reply to  Allan

You reply to Cliff makes no sense. What do you intend your comment to mean?

Richard
11 days ago
Reply to  Allan

WHAT IN GODS NAME ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

Robert Downs
Robert Downs
11 days ago
Reply to  Cliff

Yes oh yes it is

Russ Remmert
Russ Remmert
11 days ago
Reply to  Cliff

tar and feathers for these judges

Richard
11 days ago
Reply to  Cliff

They want socialist rule and we the American people will be the victims if we don’t stand against it.

Brandi
Brandi
11 days ago
Reply to  Richard

READING HOW SERIOUSLY IGNORANT SO MANY OF YOU ARE ON THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY AND WHAT THE RIGHTS OF ILLEGALS SHOULD BE ACTUALLY MADE ME NAUSEOUS BECAUSE ITS SCARY TO THINK OF YOU RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION.

Bugattiman
Bugattiman
12 days ago

Bad story. No citation of the governing law to validate.

Irene E. Peters
Irene E. Peters
11 days ago
Reply to  Bugattiman

READ the 14th Amendment — ALL of it!

john
john
11 days ago

I have and it does not state illeagal persons who violate ouy sovernty have the right to be counted in a census. Please show me where in the 14th voters rights ammendment it states what you say it does.

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
12 days ago

The judges should be declaring that laws giving illegal aliens representation are unconstitutional and void. When representation in the census was determined, no one thought that we would have vast numbers of aliens illegally in this Country and that these huge numbers would be skewing representation away from our citizens. President Trump was right in his action.

Edward
Edward
12 days ago

“or any other crime” is specific in the 14th Amendment. Illegally entering and living in the United States is a crime. These judges are wrong and in violation of their oath to the Constitution.

Michael A. Gilliam
Michael A. Gilliam
12 days ago

Relax, President Trump is using reverse psychology here. If they fill out the census we will know EXACTLY where each and every one of them is. These liberal “judges” just handed ICE a list of names and addresses. Thank you Mr. President.

Wanda Minton
Wanda Minton
11 days ago

You mean they will know where all the fraudsters are. The ones with stolen IDs so we really don’t know there real names.

safari1024
11 days ago

This will be appealed to a higher court and will inevitably wind up before the Supreme Court. Just another reason why it is imperative that everyone gets out and votes for Trump and encourages all friends and family to do the same.

Pondman
Pondman
12 days ago

So we’re giving illegals a voice in Congress, what a bunch of BS.

Namvet
Namvet
12 days ago

I propose that we “legal” citizens of this great country NOT participate in the 2020 census. Why? To demonstrate that we are a sanctuary citizenship that will not participate in bastardising our country’s legal population.

Wanda Minton
Wanda Minton
11 days ago
Reply to  Namvet

I’m not complying because they want me to fill out questions about my privacy that has nothing to do with counting the people in my home and has nothing to do with being the mortgage has nothing to do with what race or gender I am.

john
john
11 days ago
Reply to  Wanda Minton

Absolutely it is NONE of their business wether I own, mortage, or rent my home. I will not fill out this census. If I do my dogs will be the sole occupants who rent from me.

Deejay02
Deejay02
11 days ago
Reply to  Wanda Minton

They ask for your age so they know if more hospitals or schools are required in your area. They only use the rent or own info for statistics. The more home owners the better off our popuation is. Race and gender are also for statistics % of males and % of females etc.

safari1024
11 days ago
Reply to  Namvet

I live in a liberal state that sends only Democrats to Congress, ninety nine percent of the time. I will not be filling out a census form. I suggest you examine the makeup of your district before making that decision, or you may be hurting the party you favor.

DOMINIC403@COMCAST.NET
12 days ago

Nancy Pelosi stated that politics is a dirty game….mmmmmmm i wonder why Nancy…

Irene E. Peters
Irene E. Peters
11 days ago

She certainly ought to know….she wallows in the mud every day!

Gordon
Gordon
12 days ago

There will be a special place in Hell for these judges (so-called) and for Letitia James.

Well
Well
12 days ago

Once again the Dems show how DIM they are and the federal Judges from New aYork of course don’t seem to understand the CONSTITUTION the 14th AMENDMENT is covered with the rights of CITIZENS which shows that the order does not violate the Amendment because it only addresses illegal immigrants. If people are stupid enough to all these people to continue running our country the GOD help us. It is self evident that they read into this document whatever they want just do it matches their narrative

spktruth
spktruth
12 days ago

WTF Illegals CANNOT be Counted for Congressional Representation as THAT would be Unconstitutional! These GD POS Judges Need to not be removed from the Bench but SHOT!

spktruth
spktruth
12 days ago

Hello

spktruth
spktruth
12 days ago

Illegals CANNOT be Counted for Congressional Representation as THAT would be Unconstitutional! These GD POS Judges Need to not be removed from the Bench but SHOT!

spktruth
spktruth
12 days ago

WTF Illegals CANNOT be Counted for Congressional Representation as THAT would be Unconstitutional! These GD Judges Need to not be removed from the Bench but SHOT!

spktruth
spktruth
12 days ago

WTF Illegals CANNOT be Counted for Congressional Representation as THAT would be Unconstitutional! These GD POS Judges Need to not be removed from the Bench but S H O T!

spktruth
spktruth
12 days ago

WTF with the Blocking of Comments!

spktruth
spktruth
11 days ago

WTF Illegals CANNOT be Counted for Congressional Representation as THAT would be Unconstitutional! These Judges Need to not be removed from the Bench but SHOT!

spktruth
spktruth
11 days ago

WTF Illegals CANNOT be Counted for Congressional Representation as THAT would be Unconstitutional! These Judges Need to be removed from the Bench!

J. Ricks
J. Ricks
11 days ago

It makes NO sense to believe that the US Congress (both houses) owe ANY representation to foreigners who are in the US illegally!!! That is exactly what this 3-judge panel is proposing and finding. It is absolutely ridiculous and a betrayal of ALL US citizens everywhere, both native-born and naturalized person. How destructive this attitude is to our Constitution and our nation!!! These judges are bona fide IDIOTS and traitors.

Mary Ellen
Mary Ellen
11 days ago

They are NOT legal citizens……become legal and then they can be counted in the census…..the Dems are desperately looking for another base since their original base from the 1960s that they used and co-opted for over 40 years is evaporating in front of their eyes…..the younger generation of African Americans and Blacks (I am directing this comment to those who want to be called by either or both names) has been educated and they have formed their own opinions…..they have seen through the charade perpetrated on them in the name of “assistance”. Communities that had been intact with a father in the household, owning their own businesses, intact families that were raising their children according to their values…..totally eradicated thanks to the Dems’s “New Deal”…..

Cathy
11 days ago

These judges should Dr*P D&@D. All they care about is stopping Trump every step he makes. Why doesn’t NY just secede from the nation together with Ca. ? Two useless cesspools!!

Leftshot
11 days ago

Representatives are supposed to represent the citizenry, not foreigners. So I’d love to see the news reporters tell us what the legal argument is in this ruling that says otherwise.

DawnieR
DawnieR
11 days ago

Three (CORRUPT) NY Judges says it all! REMOVE them from the bench!

Russ Remmert
Russ Remmert
11 days ago
Reply to  DawnieR

get the supreme court involved than run these alleges judges out of our county

Daisy
Daisy
11 days ago

Illegals should have no say in anything to do with government. They should not be counted as they are not supposed to be here at all. These judges are not following the law or the Constitution.

John White
John White
11 days ago

Any citizen with a normal IQ and an understanding of English and history knows the 14th amendment has nothing to do with who gets counted in a census. The history tells us that the purpose of the census is to determine the number of CITIZENS to be represented and thus entitled to benefits provided by their taxes . Foreigners are not entitled to any benefits or rights. Those benefits and rights come from their home country’s consulate in the U.S..

Me Viar
Me Viar
11 days ago

I think this is totally wrong ! These illegal aliens are not United States citizens and by no means should they be counted!! If I went to Canada. illegally do you really think that they would count me as a legitimate citizen of Canada?? Hell no!! Go figure? Why should we be any different? Fire these judges or through them in jail for treason!

Ltc Debra Shawver
Ltc Debra Shawver
11 days ago

Of course…judges from commie NY..figures

Russ Remmert
Russ Remmert
11 days ago

alleged judges need to be removed/ tired of this bull

safari1024
11 days ago
Reply to  Russ Remmert

Has started recently after this site went to the new format. I do not see any improvements, but many downgrades.

Joe F
Joe F
11 days ago

The radical,liberal,hypocrite,bias judges are wrong,not a citizen, u don’t get counted,period. Look it up.u don’t even know the law,and there obummer judges,of course.

mark boker
mark boker
11 days ago

Can a higher court take this case up and rule diff.

Gramma
Gramma
11 days ago

These judges were appointed by whom?
First guess?

marina
marina
11 days ago

Go to the Supreme Court.

mondo cane
11 days ago

This is outrageous!
A three-judge panel has ruled that President Trump executive order excluding illegal immigrants from being counted for purposes of redistricting violates the law.”

There is no law existing that either implicitly or explicitly allows illegal immigrants to be considered or counted as ‘citizens’ for purposes of apportionment for representation in Congress. This is patently ridiculous on its face.

Sec2.  Policy. For the purpose of the reapportionment of Representatives following the 2020 census, it is the policy of the United States to exclude from the apportionment base aliens who are not in a lawful immigration status under the Immigration and Nationality Act, as amended (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.), to the maximum extent feasible and consistent with the discretion delegated to the executive branch. Excluding these illegal aliens from the apportionment base is more consonant with the principles of representative democracy underpinning our system of Government. Affording congressional representation, and therefore formal political influence, to States on account of the presence within their borders of aliens who have not followed the steps to secure a lawful immigration status under our laws undermines those principles.

I would add that illegal immigrants are nothing more than trespassers in our sovereign nation. No nation I’ve visited during my travels over the world would ever allow such a travesty. They realize, more than do many Americans, that it is simply not possible to allow unrestrained illegal immigration, while also retaining our sovereign borders.

This judicial dishonesty must be dealt with by a higher court. This simply cannot be allowed. Overriding a presidential executive order is no small thing. Even Congress does not have this power without a complete review and supermajority (67%) vote by both houses

Every citizen who values our nation’s sovereignty must contact their Congressional Representative and their Senators to inform them that we will not allow this to be done regardless of how many judges might adjudicate the opposite.

Steveur
11 days ago

This country has a rising amount of Crud that is trying to gain absolute power and I believe that the leader of this liberal mass, is Chief John Roberts. He has emerged as a rogue Judge, who now feels that he is able to write Law, as well as re-writing submitted law. What he did to pass the Obama Bonehead Medical Care Bill, should have been a warning to the citizens of this country. Now, he is governing over President Trump, overruling the Presidents Executive Order, which regarded Illegals, allowed and condoned by the Marxist Obama, to enter the country. The people should rise up and start to realize that a leftist with the power to change things politically of his choosing in the Supreme Court, will make us powerless. It’s time to consider impeaching the Chief Justice, for his Illegal manuevering of the Supreme Court procedures. Write your congress person, your senator and even William Barr, the United States Attorney General.

flashy0ne
flashy0ne
11 days ago

Boy Oh boy, it’s amazing what these justices ‘read’ into the 14th amendment. For those of you not familiar with the 14th Amendment, it’s “intent” is to define the rights of CITIZENS of the UNITED STATES. I can only assume that these justices are well schooled in Constitutional Law and (perhaps) are taking into account PREVIOUS findings of the court. My only question is “when did ILLEGAL aliens become citizens of the United States??

Omega 2
11 days ago

THESE FRUIT CAKE FEDERAL JUDGES IN NEW YORK ARE RULING ON A POLITICAL BASES OUT OF THERE ” BRAINLESS HEAD” CALLED AN A-HOLE TO HELP SCREW UP THE ELECTION COME NOV 3rd!

TOM
TOM
11 days ago

IT IS PASS TIME WE THE PEOPLE REMOVE, IMPEACH JUDGES WHOM DO NOT REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUTION. THEY LIE, LIE, LIE BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMUNIST. OUR COUNTRY IS AT A TURNING POINT WE MUST TAKE BACK THE RULE OF LAW AND DEPORT THESE SOCIALIST.

G T
G T
11 days ago

The judges said: excluding illegal immigrants from being counted for purposes of redistricting violates the law.
.
So now non citizens can be counted when defining voting districts, and when determining a states number of electoral college members.

Mike
Mike
11 days ago

Why is it we have to hear from these Liberal judges. Look at what state there from. To me it’s pretty clear what the 14th Amendment says in the 1st sentence. As some previously stated they (the dem’s ) want more seats in Washington so they can push there progressive agenda. He needs to appeal this ruling.

Laxmom
Laxmom
11 days ago

The President will appeal this order. This a-hole, james, hates the president and this coalition of liberal AGs forum/judge shop all the time. Let SCOTUS hear this case…the decision affects all of us.

TruSkeptik
TruSkeptik
11 days ago

This decision is a travesty at the very least, on par with NYT v Sullivan. That there are 3 NY “judges” who actually believe The President “must act in accordance with, and within the boundaries of, the authority that Congress has granted”, suggests they intentionally ignored the separation of powers doctrine ( the division of government responsibilities into distinct branches to limit any one branch from exercising the core functions of another. The intent is to prevent the concentration of power and provide for checks and balances) for purely political ends. America is indeed in very deep trouble.

American Patriot
American Patriot
11 days ago

This is nonsense. No illiegals period. Go through the immigration process.
I as one of “We the People” of our beautiful country … STOP paying taxes … period.
This will stop all the bullshit and force OUR governement into AMERICANS COME FIRST.
All rogue politicians need to be DRUMMED OUTOF OFFICE permanently

Gary
Gary
11 days ago

It’s all stems from Soros’s plan for his “One World Order” of Socialism and POWER! NYAG Letitia James Is just one of many Liberals that Soros has financially supported as he attempts to Change America from the inside-out. Less noticeable that way!!!

Gerald S Ladd
11 days ago

If they would just shoot all the illegals, we wouldn’t have a problem. Which part of illegal doesn’t the court get?

Robert L. Adams
11 days ago

So…people here illegally are granted the most sacred right that an American Citizen possess. And they determine the representation politically of a district by surreptitiously being given the right to vote? Someone please explain this. Does American Citizenship have any meaning? Oh, I guess not to those who believe “We are the World…We are the Children…” . One-World crowd here, folks!

SD OF AZ
SD OF AZ
11 days ago

Another one goes up the ladder from the dim wits judges. No illegals will be counted as citizens! On to the next court.

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