Michigan Election Canvassers Claim They Were Coerced into Certifying Election Results

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Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, two Republican Election Board members from Wayne County, MI have signed sworn affidavits claiming they were bullied and coerced into certifying the election. On Tuesday night the two Republican Dwayne County Canvassers originally voted no to certifying the election, creating a deadlock. Ultimately, the two switched their votes to have a unanimous answer from the four-member board after receiving threats toward themselves and their families. Now, the members wish to rescind their votes.

Townhall reports:

“After the vote, public comment period began and dozens of people made personal remarks against me and Mr. Hartmann. The comments made accusations of racism and threatened me and members of my family. The public comment continued for over two hours and I felt pressured to continue the meeting without a break,” Palmer said in her affidavit.

“Late in the evening, I was enticed to agree to certify based on the promise that a full and independent audit would take place. I would have not have agreed to the certification but for the promise of an audit,” Hartmann said in his affidavit. “Vice-Chairman Jonathan Kinloch then assured us that if we voted to certify the election, a full, independent, and complete audit of Detroit’s election, would be undertaken. I relied on this assurance in coming to an agreement. Without this assurance, I would not have agreed to certify Wayne County on November 17th.”

Hartmann laid out a number of questions and concerns he would like answers to before he agrees to certify the election, like why 71 percent of Detroit’s Absent Voter Counting Boards (AVCB) didn’t match, whether the chairperson of each of Detroit’s 134 AVCBs kept logs of shift changes and whether or not the 18,000+ same-day registrations in Detroit were verified as legitimate voters.

“The Wayne County election had serious process flaws which deserve investigation. I continue to ask for information to assure Wayne County voters that these elections were conducted fairly and accurately,” Palmer wrote. “Despite repeated requests, I have not received the requisite information and believe an additional 10 days of canvas by the State Board of Canvassers will help provide the information necessary.”

Palmer and Hartmann claimed the only reason they chose to vote yes and certify the election results was if an investigation and audit would subsequently take place. The two still believe the election results in Wayne County should not be certified.



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Policestate
5 days ago

What are the chances that they would find thousands of either missing or changed votes? The recount/audit does not cost the state anything, So why are they in such a rush? I guess we all know the answer to that after they went back on they’re promise of a recount. And 71% of Absent counting boards records don’t match. These two Twits should never have agreed to this they should have known that Political Democrats cannot be trusted with the truth..

C. Wyatt Hertz
C. Wyatt Hertz
5 days ago
Reply to  Policestate

I hope you saw the presser with Sidney Powell and Giuliani this morning, It was eye opening.

Richard
4 days ago
Reply to  Policestate

These people will screw their own mother to get their way, people beware of what they will do to you.

tracker1
tracker1
2 days ago
Reply to  Policestate

3 elections in MI were already overturned on inspection due to use of Dominion voting machines. 44 OTHER counties used the same machines.
NO certification should be allowed until ALL the ballots from those counties are reviewed, or we risk the same level of fraud we saw in Wayne county during the 2016 and 2018 elections.
This isn’t a unique occurance. It’s systemic fraud that goes on every election year in the SE portion of the state.

Rockies
Rockies
5 days ago

They should have reported the threats first and never certified until 100% sure of the validity and reliability of the votes period!

Gerry
Gerry
5 days ago
Reply to  Rockies

You are absolutely right !!!!!! Why are people so quick to do just what the democrats want them to do ???? Promise of an audit or not — democrats are known for their lies and empty threats. They should have questioned why the rush to certify.

Jim Miller
Jim Miller
5 days ago
Reply to  Rockies

Unfortunately, the media in cahoots with the burrorats are the one who certify the elections.

Richard
4 days ago
Reply to  Rockies

Time to bring these people who threaten others to justice.

Susanna
Susanna
5 days ago

Perhaps the DNC liars and thugs would do better if THEY were coerced to allow the Independent Audit with Police pointing AK’s at them for agreement.

Jo Nanni
Jo Nanni
5 days ago

Finally honest people who are willing to stand up for our Country!!
BIDEN = FRAUD!!!

Gerry
Gerry
5 days ago

Oh yes — Detroit – where boxes of magical ballots show up at 4 am and just happen to be for biden. Should be no surprise to anyone that corruption ran rampant.

Jim Miller
Jim Miller
5 days ago
Reply to  Gerry

In Washington State, burrorats are doing the same thing, they covered the windows so nobody could see the democrats unpacking the “already marked democrats ballots” and on the 8th district they dropped a box full of “vote fraud” and in Seattle Q13TV refused to air the news.

Robert
Robert
5 days ago
Reply to  Jim Miller

Jim Miller
Just keep on believing in all this actual BS about voter fraud when even the Republicans can not find any in their states and the Trump voter fraud panel spent almost 6 months and found one case of a woman who voted for her father. This is exactly how Autocrats get in power convince the people that they can not trust the Government institutions of the country, then they start a shooting war and declare them selves the Government doing away with opposition and then the people have no say and suffer greatly, exactly what Cuba, North Korea, Turkey, Egypt, and Russia are, not Communist , but Autocratic Governments, like Trump wants to make this USA. A one man no congress country.

Casey
Casey
5 days ago
Reply to  Jim Miller

Moron Alert! Moron Alert! Robert is in the building……Moron Alert!

Jim Miller
Jim Miller
5 days ago

MAIL VOTES, is the magic vote fraud formula for the burrorats to win every election as they SWITCH votes and bring back the dead alive to vote, in WA State that is the Norm.

Chaeles Schimpf
Chaeles Schimpf
5 days ago

The Democrats reek with fraud

FED UP
FED UP
5 days ago

ALL these LEGITAMENT AND FACTURAL CLAIMS MUST BE ADDRESSED. ANY
FRAUDULENT VOTES MUST BE THROWN OUT.. PERIOD !!!
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAWS OF OUR CONSTITUTION !!! MUST PASS the SAME VOTING LAWS FOR EVERY and ALL STATES.
NO MORE ‘STATES’ DICTATING THEIR OWN VOTING LAWS AS THEY DEEM FIT!!

Casey
Casey
5 days ago
Reply to  FED UP

Moron Alert! Moron Alert! “Robert” is in the building……Moron Alert!

Richard
4 days ago
Reply to  Casey

Casey Jones was a SOB.

Robert
Robert
5 days ago

Now when anyone thinks they are threatened and do not report it to competent authorities, then there is something wrong when the wait 2 days before actually saying anything about it Now when all this is to make people not believe in the very institutions which have kept us safe for over 150 years, just so they can destroy the USA as the Constitution says it should be, and turn it into a Republican Autocratic Government where no one has any rights except the few in power.

Votedemout
5 days ago
Reply to  Robert

I couldn’t understand what Casey was referring to, then I spot this post.

Look it’s our Spanish land grant, retired AF 0-6, multi-millionaire, life-long Republican, attorney who can’t put a cogent sentence together.

Yep Casey, you are exactly correct, MORON ALERT..!!!!!

samurai_larry
samurai_larry
5 days ago

Michigan is run by Whitmer and she is anti-Trump+. Remember, she was one of Biden’s choices for VP before he picked Harris. Since her impeachment action was announced, people in Michigan are starting to get the “courage” is stand up and be counted. I still suspect her “kidnapping” attempt was her own doing and not some nefarious plan by outside terrorists. Whitmer is bad news for Michigan and our nation, why she was ever elected is a total mystery to me. Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and a few other states need to “honestly” look at their voting (especially where Dominion was involved) and quit playing politics with the electoral process. Biden is “not” President elect until the electoral college says so – the media and Dems are playing politics with this process and the reality of voter fraud is there with a per-ponderous of evidence+ (even though your pary and their media allies deny it). The Republican canvassers should “stand-their-ground”. As the Arizona Governor said “these issues” should not be cerified until the lawsuits are settled. Dems, the honest hardworking voter type Dems, your party is in a “hurry” to put a man (and woman) in the White House that have questionable backgrounds to begin with. Your party has chosen the wrong path; socialism, pro-choice/abortion, the LGBTQ agenda, obstructionism, supporting riots, election fraud, etc. Walk away, I did years ago, you need to stand up and do so today. Your party is corrupt, walk away – you chose to be a Democrat, now make the choice to walk away from this cesspool of corruption known as today’s Democratic party!

Bidenlost 2020
Bidenlost 2020
5 days ago

Being nice and trying to work with Democrats is NOT working and has failed 100% and American people fuse has gotten real short. I am sure lots of American people do not fear to fight for our freedom so it’s time for the haters and Democrats to stop with the cheating, back stabbing, and telling lies.

C. Wyatt Hertz
C. Wyatt Hertz
5 days ago

Coerced? Since when is merely threatening the lives of children of one of the board members coercion? It’s just politics right?

Carol
5 days ago

They are not making a claim…they are stating a Fact. The people who threatened them and their children should be arrested!

dan Flyyn
5 days ago

Too late to tuck in our heels now! Lat’s gat the votes counted legally and never forget how these southpaws ( I do have other adjetives) are so just not right. Let’s take our country back!

A Seeker
5 days ago

We must declare that TRUMP is the WINNER as our PRESIDENT for HIS SECOND TERM! The Cheating Party is Disqualified!

If this is an exam, those who cheatted woud be thrown out from the school (election) and be dismissed! The Election is just like an EXAME! Whoever cheated must be dismissead from the Election list! If this is an Exam within our nation, it is used as an yard stick to measure who passsed the EXAM, so is ready to reach whose goal, up for the next grade! Whoever had to cheat is DISQUALIFIED and be thrown out from the school! In this case, out from the election!! Cheaters are UNFIT to be paid by the hard earned money from the TAX PAYERS! No one trust a cheater at any giving time! Let this be a LESSON for the CITIZENRY for the rest of our time on this God’s given EARTH!

Gene Ralno
Gene Ralno
5 days ago

This alone should serve as sufficient evidence to warrant starting over. It’s an outrageous assault on every citizen on both sides of the aisle. The people won’t forgive such egregious crimes as this nationwide flimflam in the face of hard evidence.

Nancy Wallace
5 days ago

I am sick and tired of all the accusations being said. Turn the tables and it’s time our men act like men and get in these pukes faces when their alone , say in the bathroom. Our vets need to step out of the shadows and use their military tactics in silence against the lying, cheating, pieces of crap.

SD OF AZ
SD OF AZ
5 days ago

Lesson for the Gop, dim wits lie all the time. It is their method of operation, MO.

Robert Francis Lyle
Robert Francis Lyle
5 days ago

Threats bullying attacks of people who disagree especially by BLM and Antifa neither of which of these groups represents anyone other than themselves This is just the beginning of the agenda of the left democrats and rabid radicals. Once they are allowed to steal the Presidency and take over the Senate the destruction of this nation will accelerate

rusell
rusell
5 days ago

maybe we the people not to personally need to talk too those would be bullies

Larry Gaines
Larry Gaines
5 days ago

I said MI is Corrupt and crooked

Viet Vet
Viet Vet
5 days ago

Gawd damn ni66ers.

THOMAS
THOMAS
5 days ago

Let the Record show that they and their families were threatened and that they were coerced into the Certifying Election Results … they take back their certification !

BUCK FIDEN !

Bama Bill
Bama Bill
4 days ago

It’s “Detroit”, that’s all I need to hear. I lived there, and saw what went on. Seldom if ever do they do things “Honestly”? Best one was Mayor Young, saying on TV, “There’s nothing wrong with breaking the law, except being dumb enough to get caught”! Someone could write a book about all the corruption in Detroit. When I lived there population was about 1,8 million. Today it’s less than 800,000.

Betty Acosta
Betty Acosta
3 days ago

I cant believe they would sign this thinking the dems would keep their word of an audit later.how stupid of them.why would they cheat then promise them an audit to uncover their cheating? They wouldn’t and these 2 people should have known that.a it takes is common sense people get a clue.i believe they were threatened cuz that’s what they do and they aren’t the only ones they have threatened.bit why sign first then tell the truth the uh should have raised a stink before they signed anything.bit it’s easy in hind site I get that.especially when they threaten your family.but it sure would have been easier if they would have raised a stink first.but easy for us to say when our family’s aren’t being threatened and let me remind everyone that when dems have been outed and threatened with the truth people have died and disappeared just ask Hillary’s enemys.oh you cant cuz they are dead or dissapeared.see how frightening that can be in politics people die.thats a fact I can see why they might be scared.can you?

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