Tucker Carlson Clashes With GOP Governor Over Flip-Flop

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South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem recently changed her mind about signing a bill protecting girls’ sport. The decision caused an uproar and led to a clash between her and Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

According to The Daily Caller:

“So here you have this bill, which I think all polling shows is popular in your state, I think would be popular nationally, you said you’re excited to sign it,” Carlson said. “Big business intercedes, NCAA, Chamber of Commerce, and Amazon and tell you not to sign it. And you change your mind. I think a lot of our viewers are wondering your thinking on this and how exactly this happened.”

“Well, that’s not true, Tucker, and thank you for inviting me to be on the show tonight,” Noem responded. “I could sign the bill the way that it is today. And then also, but it wouldn’t solve the problem. And that’s the real issue. As I looked at the bill and examined it, and have been discussing with legal scholars for many months on how to protect women’s sports, this bill would only allow the NCAA to bully South Dakota, and it would actually prevent women from being able to participate in collegiate sports. So what I’ve done is I’ve asked the legislature through a style and reform — is ask them to change the bill —”

Noem said that that the bill would “allow the NCAA to take punitive action against our state” and that “legal scholars that I have been consulting with for many, many months say that I would very likely lose those litigation efforts…”

“Oh, so you’re saying, so hold on, just to be clear, it’s not the bill … so, you’re saying the NCAA threatened you and you don’t think you can win that fight?” Carlson fired back. “They said if you sign this, we won’t allow girls in South Dakota to play and you don’t think you can win in court, even though the publicly overwhelmingly supports you nationally. And so you’re caving to the NCAA? I think that’s what you’re saying.”

Noem then finished Tucker off with this, “in fact, you’re wrong, completely. I’ve been working on this issue for years.”

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Dan Winright
Dan Winright
1 year ago

Hetro outlawed by the wingnuts.

denny harmon
denny harmon
1 year ago
Reply to  Dan Winright

Looks like NCAA want’s to have girls & boy;s play on the same team. another Gov. gets paid off..

Stephen Lake
Stephen Lake
1 year ago
Reply to  denny harmon

It appears you didn’t watch the video.

pete
pete
1 year ago

Tucker should allow Kristi Noem to be Governor of South Dakota and do what is best for her state!

Krystal
Krystal
1 year ago
Reply to  pete

Another sexually confused leftie?

Errol Phillips
Errol Phillips
1 year ago
Reply to  Krystal

you are the confused one here. Tucker didn’t understand what she was saying, and neither do you.

Krystal
Krystal
1 year ago
Reply to  pete

Just to be clear I think she has done a lot right but he is right to call out the decision! DO NOT cave to the left!

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago
Reply to  Krystal

This is a “line in the sand” issue for a Party that professes to truly have the backs of women. Noem is abandoning the issue to the leftists. This issue can’t be compromised. Nature is nature, period.

Stephen Lake
Stephen Lake
1 year ago

You may want to watch the video. Then, you may have a different opinion.

David Taylor
David Taylor
1 year ago
Reply to  pete

BUT – IF he actually allowed her to explain HER reasoning, Tucker would be allowing Gov. Noem to be in charge. He is way too self-centered to do that.

Richard
1 year ago
Reply to  David Taylor

Remember this these elected governors work for the people not the other way around. Let the people decide what is the right thing to do and as governor honor what they want.

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard

Noem isn’t representing her citizens in this issue. I believe South Dakota people are more reasonable than would be reflected in Noem’s position.

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago
Reply to  David Taylor

Tucker did allow the governor to explain why she won’t sign the bill, but her explanation doesn’t hold any water for a conservative. She is choosing her side.

Stephen Lake
Stephen Lake
1 year ago

She wants the SD Legislature to come back with a stronger bill, to have NCAA included in it. I think she’s setting her self and SD for a stronger position when the NCAA starts their fight.

Richard
1 year ago
Reply to  pete

Some Governors need to be reeled in.

Rick
1 year ago
Reply to  pete

She is not listening to her state; she is doing what is “politically correct” for Kristi.

Charles H Pierce
Charles H Pierce
1 year ago
Reply to  pete

Tusker misses the governors point. Her history is to not make dumb choices as most politicians and radio/TV hosts are famous for. Let her govern as she has scuessfuly done for some time

Jeff
Jeff
1 year ago

She offered a very reasonable explanation…to fight the fights that she can win. Tucker was right in demanding an explanation and she served up an excellent one. This is how journalism is SUPPOSED to work!

Stephen Lake
Stephen Lake
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff

Thank you, well said.

graydog
graydog
1 year ago

Another spineless yellow bellied Republican gets a purse filled with money!! Not very many real Republicans! President Trump was an A- and did an excellent job! Only drawback was that bad bad bump stock ban and Bill Barr as A.G. Those two were terrible!

Elaine
Elaine
1 year ago
Reply to  graydog

Did you even listen to what she said? Agree with you 100% about Barr, though. He was a One World Order Trojan horse.

Bill Williams
1 year ago
Reply to  Elaine

Yep, sadly, Barr was a card carrying member of ‘deep state’.

David Taylor
David Taylor
1 year ago

Tucker Carlson engages in what I term “Confrontational journalism”. That is – he does NOT report the news, and he does NOT ask info-seeking questions. He confronts and accuses. The purpose is to put the responder on defense and puts the questioner (Tucker) in charge. Sort of like the “good cop – bad cop” situation with Tucker playing both parts. Another term for this kind of “reporting” is “sensationalism”. All it really is – is bullyism. Think for just a moment! That is exactly how that blonde woman – Meghan Kelly or something like that – attacked Trump in 2016.

GOTCHA!

Richard
1 year ago
Reply to  David Taylor

Sounds like you are referring to the Demonrat party.

Karole
Karole
1 year ago

If in fact the NCAA would hold SD hostage because of this bill, then the NCAA, like the PGA, NBA, MLB, NFL are unAmerican in my opinion. This country has lost its freedoms and nothing good will result.

Bill Williams
1 year ago
Reply to  Karole

A very good comment, Karole, and so true.

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago
Reply to  Karole

If the NCAA did hold SD hostage, it must be confronted. Noem instead backed down. That’s how squishy conservatives lose. I believe the NCAA would lose. It’s not held in very high regard nationally.

dicky-do
1 year ago

Noem clearly stated that the opposition to the proposal to let bio-males compete in womens sports is in a much stronger position to defeat the efforts to allow the bio-males to compete IF there is an organized coalition of states, universities, etc. that fight the issue. She understands the power of the people and the strength of numbers. We should all take a deep breath and let her try to establish the coalition necessary to defeat the proposal. Let’s kill it before it gets implemented nationally.

Robert F. Nance
Robert F. Nance
1 year ago

Typical RINO

john douglas
john douglas
1 year ago

Tucker is the definition of controlled opposition

john douglas
john douglas
1 year ago

Tucker the Voice of the establishment RINOS .

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago
Reply to  john douglas

Tucker didn’t take the RINO position; Noem did.

Bill
Bill
1 year ago

Why isn’t the Women’s Lib out in the streets raising he** against this serious threat against Women’s Rights. They should have been out since day one.

Phil Hammersley
Phil Hammersley
1 year ago
Reply to  Bill

Because they are far-left nuts first and women way back in the pack!

Viet Vet
Viet Vet
1 year ago

Exactly, it was never about women, it was about communist ideology.

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago
Reply to  Bill

Women’s Lib is no more supportive of women than the Democrat Party is; it supports leftists.

Pete
Pete
1 year ago

Extremely disappointing decision on her part. But then again the NCAA has become too powerful and too dictatorial and has been using the $$$ allocation of funds to venues to push a far left agenda. It is time to real in the NCAA. The NCAA has no right to discriminate against a state. This is the problem. A case before the Supreme Court is justified.

Bill Williams
1 year ago
Reply to  Pete

Oh yes, if the NCAA pushes a program, rest assured it is ‘far left’; Tucker is wrong on this one. It’s hard to know where he stands, I don’t support his show, I don’t support FOX on anything, they have become way to liberal in my world.

Viet Vet
Viet Vet
1 year ago
Reply to  Pete

The NCAA needs to be GONE yesterday.

MikefromTexas
MikefromTexas
1 year ago

I’am with the Governor. Make the law so you can win. Just look at all sports and see the cr*p they use to win. A lot of people are starting to tune them out. To bad many more are not doing that.

John Wood
John Wood
1 year ago

I am a fan of both Tucker and Governor Noem but this time Tucker was less than “fair and balanced”.

Bill Williams
1 year ago
Reply to  John Wood

FOX has lost that ‘fair and balanced’ way back when.

remember alamo
remember alamo
1 year ago

ncaa creatures of darkness. I believe Governor Noem has gained some wisdom. The light can defeat the darkness.

Henry
Henry
1 year ago

Kristi is ALWAYS playing the economic card for her state. Always trying to get people and businesses to come to SD. Because of the crookedness of the national media and their corporate followers, some of these national economic powers are using this agenda to attack the state of south Dakota, and Kristi Noem in parallel. But Carlson is right. She should NOT cave to the threatened economic pressure. It just may be that the nation is really looking, right now, for a courageous leader like Noem to just say NO!

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago
Reply to  Henry

But is Noem a courageous leader? She isn’t showing that to me, and I wouldn’t support her for national office unless she shows she will stand up and be counted. She isn’t doing so in this situation.

dicky-do
1 year ago

IF she can organize the support to stop the bio-male participation in womens sports she will be a viable contender for national office. If enough citizens agree with her and support her coalition we will beat back the group that wants thre men competing against the girls!

H. Rivera
H. Rivera
1 year ago

I thought she had more backbone than the typical Republican politician but alas she is of the same brand of the GOP that refuses to challenge the liberal ideology.

What good is caving to the NCAA if your state’s girls will be wiped out in competition by biological males?

Michael F Hoffman
Michael F Hoffman
1 year ago

This was NOT the end of the discussion and she did not “finish him off” :Noem then finished Tucker off with this, “in fact, you’re wrong, completely. I’ve been working on this issue for years.” The discussion continued on and if we pay attention we find that she did ecplain she sent the bill back for a rewrite based on advice of counsel, which was not clear at all as to why, so Tucker did his job properly until what she said was making some kind of sense. It is still not clear what the rewrite is for but she verified her intentions to stay the course and they were both respectful and he had the explanation which was not at first understandable. It was a civil back and forth over unclear legislative issues, there was no winner or loser of some kind of “BATTLE”.

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago

Real leaders don’t take the advice of council, when it’s wrong on principle. Conservatives don’t win by abandoning principle. President Trump was so successful in office because he didn’t accept wrong council. Sometimes, COUNCIL is just cutting losses, not advancing principle. Governing is more than just playing the money game.

Weck
Weck
1 year ago

The question needed to be asked. Tucker asked it. Noem answered it intelligently and thoroughly. Tucker, keep us posted.

Rick
1 year ago

She’s finished too as far as I’m concerned. This is the second time she has sold out girl’s sports by vetoing one of these bills. She has also sold out her state voters that wanted a conservative. Trump better take her off his list of potentials for the next election.

Richard Hennessy
Richard Hennessy
1 year ago

Tucker is right; Noem is wrong. First, I don’t believe South Dakota would lose, especially when joined by other reasonable states who want to protect their girls opportunity to compete in athletics. Secondly, conservatives have never won by backing down to liberal pressure. Someone has to have the courage to take up the fight. Apparently, Noem doesn’t have that political courage. Thus, conservatives don’t need her. We need fighters.

Viet Vet
Viet Vet
1 year ago

Backing down has always been the problem.

Larry
Larry
1 year ago

Tucker is right in bringing the issue to light. Noem is right in adopting the strategy she intends to use. Instead of carping about her approach, let’s endorse it and hold her to account for it’s success…or failure.

kbhret
kbhret
1 year ago

wait, wait, wait….
typically you will find women, girls, females across the board, embracing this kind of stuff….
Heck we all know suburban, college educated white women will vote for the democratic candidate as reliably as an American Jew.
SO WHY ARE THEY SO UPSET ABOUT THIS!!!!!
I MEAN, AFTER ALL, ISN’T THIS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST OUR EVER GROWING NUMBER OF TRANSGENDERS, TRANSEXUALS, TRANSFORMERS, TRANSPONDERS, WHATEVER THE HECK THEY CALL THEMSELVES?????

Viet Vet
Viet Vet
1 year ago
Reply to  kbhret

The left is finally getting their just rewards. It shows that many of them are ignorant as a summer day is long.

Donald Kidd
1 year ago
Reply to  Viet Vet

I have a question on all this women against a transgender.
If the women cannot compete with transgender females how in the world can they be combat soldiers with normal men fighting for their lives. Of course we all know women will go to extremes to be recognized as heroes of our country exceeding the men in battle as they know the men will protect them at the cost of the mans life because of all this foolishness. As I am a vet it really makes me sick to hear a woman say she is a combat veteran when actually with common sense there is no way as they have admitted they cannot compete with transgender females.
I personally think this is only going to cost the combat veteran men their lives because of this stupid thing obame put out that there was no difference in male or female. Maybe he was judging by himself as he never was a combat soldier or anything else for our country.

Donk the vet

Larry
Larry
1 year ago

My question is, where does the NCAA get it’s power? Who backs them? Where do they get their money? Who runs that organization?
Given that they’re on the wrong side of this issue and only supported by leftist money sources, it seems that a national campaign against them and their supporters would quickly change their position on this issue, or at least get them to back down.
Sadly this is the way it goes in most left/right issues, they amass a small loud group decrying an issue, get alot of publicity and seemingly popular support even though they don’t have it, the perception is there, and they use it to intimidate the right who 9 times out of 10 back down. Let’s follow their strategy and go after them on this issue.
And once that is done, keep that small group of conservatives going and go after all these other leftist issues being jammed down our throats!

Viken Shirinian
Viken Shirinian
1 year ago

I give Tucker credit for being equal on both sides. Not too many journalists can say that and back it up. I also lobe the Governor’s response and actions she has taken.
Now there is a President I would support if the Great 45 doesn’t become the Great 47

Nancy Anderson
Nancy Anderson
1 year ago

I think that Tucker was a little too hard on the Governor. She said that she wouldn’t sign the bill the way that it is worded now, because it would give the NCAA power over the girls of S.D. She wants a different wording and action to the bill. That’s how I understood it.

Charlie
Charlie
1 year ago

I liked the Governor’s approach and most of the time I agree with Tucker but not this time. She had her facts and Trucker was trying for an ah hah moment and came off very poorly. Not the usual Trucker prior research an knowing his facts. Very disappointed.

Robert Vaughn
1 year ago

Too bad like Mike Pence she proved she doesn’t have the back bone to take on the opposition and push the envelope.Donald Trump fought tooth and nail everyday for what he thought was right and best for the American people. She and Pence have committed political suicide.

Ed Pollock
1 year ago

This is a phony article, I listened to the program, She didn’t sign the bill because she wants more states to help her in fighting the NCAA’s who would have stopped NCAA teams from playing in her state..Carson wasn’t told that before the program aired …but they cleared it up ..and he wished her GOOD LUCK,,as we all do ..the NCAA is wrong, and remember BIDEN stared this by signing an order that that allowed a male to say he prefered being a woman ..and play on a woman’s team. This would destroy woman teams…and most of us would be against this.

Alan Minton
Alan Minton
1 year ago

Apparently some of you failed to listen as Tucker did. She wants the bill written in a way that does not allow for lawsuits to stop the provisions. Great Governor! and I live in the sad state of Oregon.

anniedawn
1 year ago
Reply to  Alan Minton

So does my cousin and I offer my sympathy.

Walkin O'Shea
1 year ago

Tucker makes a good point. However, I would like for South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem to clarify with complete certitude, why exactly she refuses to ratify this bill. Her explanation was rather vague and came off as if she were running from this fight.

Dee S
1 year ago

The American people want women to be able to win in sports in their own gender, through fairness. Men should be in their own class according to their gender. This in between transgender is a hindrance to women’s sports and not fair to women. There are two gender’s man and woman that God created. NO matter what a person does to change their appearance, they are still the gender that God created them to be. I will never support this kind of man made theology to push transgender sports.

Jim
Jim
1 year ago

Tucker missed her point. Seems to me he had already had his opinion and quite often fails to hear what is really being said. She did not reject totally the bill. She held it up for further discussion. I suspect that in the near future Noem’s actions will resolve the issue and for women in North Dakota they will compete against women and boys against boys.
Anyone think Tucker will open his program with this issue and his admission to missing her point?

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