California Proposes Giving Beachfront Property to Black Descendants

Venice Beach- food giveaway in homeless encampment via wikimedia commons

The California State Senate recently passed a proposal that would authorize Los Angeles County to return beachfront property previously seized from two black owners to their descendants, the move is the latest in a long string of proposed reparations in the state.

Fox News reports:

The bill next heads to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk and while his office hasn’t indicated if he’ll sign it, the bill is widely popular, according to the Los Angeles Daily News.

If signed, it would reportedly be the first law returning land to former Black owners to make amends for past discriminatory policies.

The effort started last summer during the anti-racism protest movement and after a petition demanding reparations at the beach circulated, the Daily News reported.

The bill “represents economic and historic justice,” state Sen. Steven Bradford told the Daily News, “and is a model of what reparations can truly look like.”



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john
john
1 month ago

That’s it? where are the rest of the facts? Was the property illegally seized? Eminent Domain issue? Seized and given to -gasp- white people?

Lawrence I'Rene Thuotte
Lawrence I'Rene Thuotte
1 month ago
Reply to  john

Thank you, John, you are one step ahead of me on these and many other questions. The headlines initially gave me great pause figuring that our boys and girls on the Left Coast had once again gone off the deep end, but after reading that the land was seized, many, many more questions come to mind. First was the Ancesters paid for the land (via eminent Domain or not)? Were they given fair market value for the land in any event? Are their decendants going to have to pay back any previous funds received by their ancesters, adjusted for inflation over the years? Far too many questions raised to make any type of assessment of the appropriateness of this proposal.

Robert Becker
Robert Becker
1 month ago

NPR.ORG contains this:The rise and fall of Bruce’s BeachMarried couple Willa and Charles Bruce began purchasing land along the shoreline in the city of Manhattan Beach, just outside Los Angeles, in 1912.
The pair ran a successful resort for Black families — the spot was quickly dubbed Bruce’s Beach — during a time when Jim Crow laws were common and Black people had limited access to the beach, the Southern California News Group reported.
But white landowners suggested the growing Black population would depreciate land prices. They were also angry over the success of Bruce’s Beach.
According to a report Manhattan Beach prepared in April, historical documents indicate that “white neighbors resented the resort’s growing popularity and prosperity of its African American owners.”
Ultimately, it was the Bruces’ own government that ended their run in the seaside community.
According to the text of the bill, the Manhattan Beach board of trustees voted in 1924 to condemn Bruce’s Beach and the surrounding land, taking control of it through eminent domain.

R Adams
R Adams
1 month ago
Reply to  Robert Becker

That is a pretty good description of what happened the family was not given a fair market value as compared to other comparable park properties at the time and therefore they were also pushed out of the appreciation and the ability to operate a business and have a livelihood they were cut out of access in that area to the Pacific Ocean it was a very emotional and very racially predicated act of the government. This is a clear case of curing a long ago wrong. That use of eminent domain what’s wrong in the board voting to rectify this is an appropriate use of government power now. Most of the time there are no records and there is no way to go back and fix poor actions of the past. In this case there is documentary evidence therefore to be fair and just this miscarriage should be amended.

Olga C Blanthorne
Olga C Blanthorne
1 month ago
Reply to  R Adams

What about Chavez Ravine where the whole town was taken over by eminent domain-churches, small businesses, mix low income mexican families who had lived there over 100 years? Town was reduced to a parking lot for the Dodgers. I remember as a child seeing the newspaper picture of an old man holding a shot gun in front of his home as the police came to evict him physically off his property. Bet no reparations will go to any of these families of mexican heritage.

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1 month ago

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Rob
Rob
1 month ago

Good one Lawrence – I did not mention that in eminent domain, the government is supposed to pay you fair market value or above at the time of the taking.

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1 month ago
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1 month ago
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sus
sus
1 month ago
Reply to  john

I heard the complete story 6 most ago and did seem to agree with it.
Here’s a run-down
https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-beach-seized-black-family-1924-set-returned/story?id=77191841

Rob
Rob
1 month ago
Reply to  john

Remember, if this was a result of eminent domain – then the GOVERNMENT f-k-d up! But eminent domain is only supposed to be instituted for the good of many. If it like putting in I-5 or HWY 101 or even a park or to clean a blighted area for the good of all – not one race or a few. If this goes through (and Newsom is a lawyer), then it will start a rage of ’eminent domain’ force takings across the country, and the taxpayers, like always will pay 100% for all because the government only steals money from the backs of hard working American taxpayers – it does not make a dime. most of it goes in the politician’s and their relatives pockets.

Michael O'Connor
Michael O'Connor
1 month ago

That is just wrong.

Michael Robertson !!!!!!@@!!!@

AMEN BROTHER !!!

Pat
Pat
1 month ago

I don’t consider it reparations, I consider it that the State stole the land and needs to give it back….

Sandra Lee Smith
Sandra Lee Smith
1 month ago
Reply to  Pat

Maybe the state stole, we really don’t know HOW the state acquired it. Eminent domain, seized for back taxes, purchased at market value, perhaps even taken over upon the owners’ death
& no NOK found. All are legitimate possibles that don’t include stealing anything from anyone.

W. R. Wall
W. R. Wall
1 month ago

Well, if there are about 20+ relatives being repaired, seems there were NOK to be found, but disregarded. It’s not the State of CA, but the City of Manhattan Beach that is to blame.

John J
1 month ago

Why to create more “chicken bone beaches”

W. R. Wall
W. R. Wall
1 month ago
Reply to  John J

And a “chicken bone” beach is what, exactly?

Steve Sylvia
Steve Sylvia
1 month ago

I had an ancestor killed fighting to free slaves during the Civil War. Where do I sign up for reparations for his death. I think descendants of freed slaves should pay reparations to descendants of white people who died for their ancestor’s freedom.

jim
jim
1 month ago

Yeah…
Not enough information.
Starting with who, what, where, when and how .
Democrats hate your Guts

mofromtn
mofromtn
1 month ago

I truly think the left has fell and busted that nogin pretty hard I think. They are a complete group of clowns, pedo’s, and freaks. And the thought that there is also someone that utterly ignorant and disgusting that thinks they walk on water. When in reality they are nothing but a moronic group of completely demented sickO’s that actually think their souls are protected. Bahahahahahahah Idiotic buffoons is all I see. Sad part even the Black folks are starting to get pissed with this attempt to screw up our country beyond saving.

Carlo
Carlo
1 month ago

That is a racist attack on whites. Just give our money and property to blacks. No one of us owned blacks and no one alive now was ever a slave. Democrats are deepthroating blacks for votes. I thought paying for votes was illegal? Lock these stupid politicians up.Stop using tax dollars to buy votes.

W. R. Wall
W. R. Wall
1 month ago
Reply to  Carlo

Not an attack on whites, just a return of property taken unjustly through a city’s (Manhattan Beach) eminent domain process. This is the resolution of an unlawful taking. No more, no less. No need to be afraid. And, about what you’re thinking? I’m more white and most likely more conservative/right-leaning than you.

Steve Sylvia
Steve Sylvia
1 month ago
Reply to  W. R. Wall

Wait until the Indians hear about this. Wait ’till the Spanish hear about this. Wow! Who gets the beachfront property? Might open a real big can of worms. Oh, goody. Anything that makes life difficult for Californians is OKAY with me!

Michael Robertson !!!!!!@@!!!@

Don’t give um S##T !!!
THAT OCEANS BEEN THERE FOR MILENIAS.
IN FACT I HOMESTEADED IT IN 1969, SO IT’S MINE !!!

DennisBAnderson
1 month ago

Naw-naw-naw you`re looking at a scheitz sandwich. You will have the american indians on the warpath once again.

Good luck
1 month ago

Newsom is at his usual off the wall ideas , he is like the scarecrow–if he only had a brain .

Steve Sylvia
Steve Sylvia
1 month ago
Reply to  Good luck

He needs to visit more expensive restaurants without a mask. Catch COVID III maybe. Hope springs eternal.

Jumbo
Jumbo
1 month ago

If the current squatters are Democrats, the’ll demand triple its current value from the taxpayer to relinquish it.

Bud Light 69
Bud Light 69
1 month ago

I agree with giving the beachfront property away. I think that the entire stretch of Malibu should be seized from the current owners and given to them.

Stephen Russell
Stephen Russell
1 month ago

Its small property in Manhatten Beach CA area

W. R. Wall
W. R. Wall
1 month ago

Yup, that picture is deceptive, makes you think that whole stretch of strand is to be given away.

Item #2 – I can’t imagine the property taxes that will come with acquiring that property. YIKES!!!

RRRoger
RRRoger
1 month ago

They should pass reparations to the white tax payers while they are at it.
Actually all California tax payers have had much of their money stolen, kinda like the gas taxes that go to ineficient bus routs and trains to nowhere while electric cars go free.

Fed Up With the Sell-Out
Fed Up With the Sell-Out
1 month ago

Next they’ll mandate that beachfront property in West Africa be gifted to the descendants of the BLACK slave marketers who sold other blacks all over the world for profit. Yup. That’ll show ’em!

By the way, what are the particulars in this case? Was it justified to seize the land? Tax issues? WHAT??

Next thing we see from Commiefornia will be them issuing million dollar reparations checks to convicted murderers, rapists and thieves as they are walking out the prison gates. Black ones, that is. Whitey will remain behind bars.

I keep asking myself “can it get any worse?”, and then it does.

TJ Roberts
TJ Roberts
1 month ago

Lots of misinformation in comments.
I’ve been a resident of MB since 1957.

1) There is no evidence to show that white neighbors were concerned about property values. Undoubtedly there were some, but not everyone as some comments suggest.
2) A number of white land owners near the Bruce’s lost their property also in the eminent domain proceedings. Should descendants of those families get reparations as well?
3) The Bruce’s were indeed given fair market value. They went to court to get more and lost their case.
4) The task force was primarily comprised of activists determined to mete out “social justice” They pressured the present city council to issue a formal apology, which according to numerous attorneys, would have opened the city to lawsuits. The City did issue a formal acknowledgement of what happened.
5) We presently have a number of black families living in MB. The property values are extremely high; if we hadn’t bought our home in 1971, there’s no way we could afford to live here. Every one of the neighbors on our block is either a doctor, a dentist, or a CEO. Our street is also diverse; we have Middle Eastern, Filipino and Vietnamese families on our block alone.

Sid Abma
Sid Abma
1 month ago

Quick. We must get Newsom out ASAP. What a stupid excuse for a man he is.

Larry Richardson
Larry Richardson
1 month ago

Does that mean the US will give me back the Smokey Mountins they took from my Cherokee forefathers

Tim Nelson
Tim Nelson
1 month ago

While their at it give ’em Newsome’s paychecks as he stole that money too!!! Should just take the entire state/west coast and wall it off from the rest of the US and hand it over to the left-wing morons so they can create their Socialist Eutopia they’ve always wanted and the rest of us can get back to being the greatest country on earth without the left flushing anymore of it down the drain!!! And when their Eutopian society collapses they won’t have nobody to blame but themselves and they can live out the remaining days in misery!!!

Fritzeee
Fritzeee
1 month ago

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Fritzeee
Fritzeee
1 month ago

When it is all underwater in a couple of years due to “Global Warming”, they will think it was a bad deal.

Fritzeee
Fritzeee
1 month ago

When it is all underwater in a couple of years due to “Global Warming”, they will think it was a bad deal.

Howard Seaton
Howard Seaton
1 month ago

What about the lands that were taken from Japanese-Americans that were sent to camps after the start of WWII?

gregr
gregr
1 month ago

How about they make the ancestors of those that took it from them, pay the ancestors of those that had it taken? Who where the Manhattan Beach Board of Trustees in 1924?

gregr
gregr
1 month ago

Well, now that I think about it, who did they buy it from? Was it taken from somebody before? American Indians maybe? How far back should we go?

Robin Walter Boyd
Robin Walter Boyd
1 month ago

If the land was illegally seized just because the owners were Black, then this is not reparation, it is righting a wrong that was done. But I agree that a lot more information needs to be revealed about why the land was seized in the first place.

Stan Chang
Stan Chang
1 month ago

Give beach front property to black ppl? Ok, start with property owned by Hollywood actors, government elected state & Federal reps, and tech mogels.

alfredo dizon
alfredo dizon
1 month ago

This is absolutely one of the dumbest things I ever heard. Soon all the monies will be given to all the poor, the buildings to all the homeless, the parks to all the criminals…

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