Former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci said Thursday that morale at the White House is “terrible,” and that more staff would be leaving if the problem isn’t fixed.

“The morale inside the White House … the morale is terrible,” he said on CNN. “The reason why the morale is terrible is that the rule by fear and intimidation does not work in a civilian environment.”

“Here we are, it’s messed up, it’ll be up to the president to figure out if he wants to fix it or not,” he added. “If he doesn’t, it’ll stay like this and I predict more departures.”

Scaramucci spoke just hours after White House communications director Hope Hicks said she would leave her post soon. The White House said it had nothing to do with her testimony, in which she reportedly said she told “white lies” to cover for Trump, but several reports said Trump wasn’t happy with her performance.

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