CNN has finally admitted that without President Trump in the White House their ratings would plummet. The admission comes from the president of the network Jeff Zucker.

According to The Daily Wire:

No Trump, no ratings. That’s the reality of CNN’s situation in the Trump era, CNN Worldwide President Jeff Zucker begrudgingly admits.

In an interview with Vanity Fair that offers a glimpse “inside the Trump gold rush at CNN,” Zucker acknowledged some things that he’d probably rather not be the case: The network is indeed obsessed with Trump — because it has to be.

“People say all the time, ‘Oh, I don’t want to talk about Trump. I’ve had too much Trump,'” Zucker told Vanity Fair’s Joe Pompeo. “And yet at the end of the day, all they want to do is talk about Trump. We’ve seen that, anytime you break away from the Trump story and cover other events in this era, the audience goes away. So we know that, right now, Donald Trump dominates.”

Pompeo makes a point of crediting Zucker for bringing Trump to television when he was at NBC by green-lighting “The Apprentice” back in 2004. Zucker “arguably schooled Trump in the art of reality television,” writes Pompeo. “Halfway through Trump’s first term, his instincts remain just as acute.”

Zucker went on to say that CNN is a platform that allows debate between Trump’s base and people who are anti-Trump. This seems to be a bit of a stretch but you can be the judge of that.