Journalist Bob Woodward said in a radio interview on Friday with Hugh Hewitt that in the two years of investigative work that he conducted for his book "Fear," he found no evidence of collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia — which Special Counsel Robert Mueller was hoping to find.
"There’s a lot complimentary in this book, the most important of which is John Dowd firmly believes, the president’s former lawyer, that the special counsel, Bob Mueller, has nothing," Hewitt began. "There’s no collusion, there’s nothing. It’s all a play to get an 18 USC 1001 perjury trap, and that POTUS should never sit down. Is that a fair assessment of what John Dowd believes?"
"Oh, well, yeah, until we end," Woodward said. "And finally, it, the point where Dowd resigns because he is convinced the president should not testify, Dowd concludes that Mueller had played him for a sucker, got all of the cooperation of 37 witnesses, a million pages-plus of campaign documents, 20,000 pages of White House documents. So in the end, as he says to the president, he said you were right. We can’t trust Mueller."
Hewitt continued to question Woodward about collusion as the interview moved along, and every time Woodward reaffirmed that he was not able to find any evidence of it.
"I did not, and of course, I looked for it, looked for it hard," Woodward said. "And so you know, there we are. We’re going to see what Mueller has, and Dowd may be right. He has something that Dowd and the president don’t know about, a secret witness or somebody who has changed their testimony. As you know, that often happens, and that can break open or turn a case."