CNN’s Chris Cuomo tried to lead his guests into attacking Trump’s Charlottesville “both sides” comments Thursday, but the attempt majorly backfired.

Cuomo had on a former skinhead and an anti-KKK author to discuss the events in Charlottesville, and was clearly goading them into attacking Trump for blaming violence on both white supremacists and the “alt-left.”

“It is being set up as a false premise, what the president suggested, which is that the hate groups that were down there and those that were opposing them share the blame for the violence,” Cuomo said, setting up his first question for his guests. “In your estimation, what makes hate groups like the KKK, the white supremacists, and the neo-Nazis that came together down there different from those who oppose them?”

“I don’t see much of a difference in violence,” Tim Zaal, former skinhead, admitted. “The main difference that I see is that there’s people who are standing up for the rights of others.”